Help Scanning Outdoors and Gardens Please

For those who don't understand how the camera works one of the sensors that uses to determine alignment is infrared which is exactly what the sun generates so if the camera can see the sun it will not align properly and generate an alignment error. There is no way around this.

What you see in many of the models shot with the cameras are photographers being clever and shooting out of the suns direct view and in most cases this will allow you to capture the shot but not always. You can get caught out with the sun even coming in through a window or bouncing off a shiny surface. Some MSP’s have experiences this when they have a hole in a floor which they can see the scan point below and this is normally caused by the sun interfering with the shot.

The short answer to your question in regards to shooting a golf course is to shoot it with a DSLR on a pano head and manually connect the pano just like a Google Street View shoot.

3.18K	3.18K ron0987 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@judysmithre, there is no way to do a complete golf course as a walk thru tour with Matterport. From my view the best way would be do the club house as a independent tour. Use Mattertags to hyperlink a map of the golf course, you can only do this if you are a current beta tester for Mattertags. Then tag each hole's tee off point and hole with a 360 degree view. You would have the primary tour with the ability to see a 360 degree view from several points in the course. But again in Matterport no way to do that yet. So like Gary pointed out you can use a DSLR and either a Gigapan motorized camera 360 adapter, or Nodalninja manual 360 tripod adapter and build a tour thru software like Kolor Panotour. If you are an Iphone 6 user you may consider using Insidemaps, great Matterport competition. Hunter in this link clickable text has a system that does out door photos with their rotator. Hunter is a great resource and if you have a map of the course would probably help with the setup. I think these are just a couple of ways to accomplish this, but at this time I do not see a Matterport resolution, at this time. I hope others chime in, but this is what I see as a resolution. Sorry for the long answer. Ron
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WGAN Forum Founder & WGAN-TV Podcast Host 31.24K Website Atlanta, Georgia Linked In Facebook Twitter YouTube TikTok Instragram Matterport Service Partner Google Street View Trusted Photographer Zillow Certified Photographer We Get Around Network Member	31.24K DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	[@Baxter I moved your question from the New to MUG thread here. - Dan] Quote: Originally Posted by @Baxter .... I've [...] had problems scanning outdoors/gardens. I can get one or two steps outside the front/back door and it won't let me scan any further. It seems logical to possibly draw the outer edge of the outside space as a window because it may not have enough reference points but I'm a noob and haven't got round to trying it yet so any advice before I waste a load of time doing the wrong things would be much appreciated. I want to offer the service to places with large outdoor areas so knowing how to do it before I think about creating an example would be good. Overall though, what an awesome bit of kit and thanks to Matterport! Cheers, Baxter
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	I am curious what the best solution is too.
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	@DanSmigrod Thanks for setting up the thread, Dan. Much appreciated. With regards to my question, it may help if I tell you my ultimate goal is to offer walk-throughs of golf courses to help players plan their round. I've visited countless courses for the first time and played a howler because you know nothing about the course. Perhaps as much down to my ability as the lack of prior knowledge but yeah, I think that'd really help players on the whole.
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WGAN Forum Founder & WGAN-TV Podcast Host 31.24K Website Atlanta, Georgia Linked In Facebook Twitter YouTube TikTok Instragram Matterport Service Partner Google Street View Trusted Photographer Zillow Certified Photographer We Get Around Network Member	31.24K DanSmigrod private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	@Baxter While it is possible to shoot large spaces outdoors (I scanned the gardens above), there are better (easier, faster and cost effective) solutions for scanning outdoors, including immoviewer and Real.Vision ... While Matterport's new 360º Views solution for outdoors is great for a few scans for the outdoors of a house for sale, it is not a practical solution for shooting a golf course. Dan
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	For those who don't understand how the camera works one of the sensors that uses to determine alignment is infrared which is exactly what the sun generates so if the camera can see the sun it will not align properly and generate an alignment error. There is no way around this. What you see in many of the models shot with the cameras are photographers being clever and shooting out of the suns direct view and in most cases this will allow you to capture the shot but not always. You can get caught out with the sun even coming in through a window or bouncing off a shiny surface. Some MSP’s have experiences this when they have a hole in a floor which they can see the scan point below and this is normally caused by the sun interfering with the shot. The short answer to your question in regards to shooting a golf course is to shoot it with a DSLR on a pano head and manually connect the pano just like a Google Street View shoot.
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	@GarySnyder and @ron0987, When the 360 views were first released, I did a 'test' scan that consisted of two 360 views and one 3D Scan. I was under the impression that I would not be charged for this 'test' since there was only 1 3D Scan when I uploaded it. When I went back later to my account page. I saw that I was in fact charged for the 'test' scan. While I did not contact Matterport about this, I am assumming that the two 360 view scans were added to the 3D scan for a total of 3 scans, which exceed the 2 scans that qualify for the free test scan processing. Hope this helps! Jon
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	Hi guys, Thanks for all of your input on this. The Ricoh Theta S with immoviewer looks to be a fantastic alternative for something like a golf course or an outdoor venue/attraction. Thank you all very much.
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