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@Meidansha unfortunately it looks like they admitted to the Matterport mishap on Facebook, not sure it’s a very convoluted posting and only one from company at the time I read it. Plus dispute on tech data. Not sure what to think about it at this point. I wish they would come forward with good data, I am trying to follow that Facebook post it’s all over the place. Does anyone have any other good info?
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@wingman on the RTK point, they just updated the landing page to include info on the accessories. Here is what is listed on the RTK module (the short of it is you need a base station).

“ RTK (Real Time Kinematic) is a dynamic measurement technology that utilizes carrier phase observation for real-time differential GPS (RTDGPS). It consists of a base station receiver, a data link, and a rover receiver, typically using dual-frequency signals from satellite systems like GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, and Compass. Our RTK Antenna & Signal Module enhances positioning accuracy through real-time differential correction, achieving absolute accuracy of point clouds within 1-3 cm. This accessory requires a base station and can be calibrated using wireless communication on the L1 channel (1575.42 MHz) and the L2 channel (1227.60 MHz).”


I do not know much about L1 or L2. The way I was using mine was:

After I could not use my RTK set due to how internet connections work now I simply created an account for government online services supplying corrections, got a url from them and used NTRIP android app to connect to the rover using my login details from the government service to apply correction in real time. I could get 2cm accuracy shown in the app but I had never tested with a real place or data and was just driving around with it working.
Without corrections the app showed accuracy from 0.3m to 3m.

Back to Eagle: There is extra information in one thread about how you can use their so called RTK module.
Here is a link to the whole thread. What I see are two options:
1) post processing all GNNS data. I have forgotten what it is called but it is a valid and known method. Basically you collect all data from a rover module(their RTK system) while some stationary base near by collecting GNSS data for corrections. So you mix them together to correct rover position after it is all done
https://www.facebook.com/groups/920361733495397/posts/958530949678475/

2) There is a NTRIP Client app for Android. See the link from the developer website below but you can also find it on Google Play market. That is the app I used and mentioned at the beginning of my post.

http://lefebure.com/software/ntripclient/

I am sorry for posting that link to "3D tours" done with Eagle which was not the case at all. To their defence it was not posted by 3DMakerPro in their group, it was just a member. I assumed the first tour has been done with the Eagle scanner because their pages mentioned this scanner everywhere.

For me the fact that the tour was done with Matterport pro2 still does not put me in any form of regret buying it. I was asking how it can even build a 360 considering sensors position and operator visible at the back. So I did not believe it could before I purchased it.

For me 3D part is the more interesting because it can capture big places for point cloud fast. I am happy with its claimed accuracy because I did not expect it could be used for AEC anyway.
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@Ron0987, Thanks for the update.

@Wingman, Thanks for the details on using RTK modules. This is invaulable info for me. I haven't used RTK yet but I am just getting into mapping (at a hobby level) and I thought this would be a good opportunity to try as the module is discounted. I have considered getting a station and module for my Mavic Pro 2 and doing a home conversion but the cost of the station would set me back quite a lot for something that is not going to provide any income for the forseeable future. The Android app or government network option sounds like something worth exploring in early testing.

I think I will probably use this device in combination with another 360 camera or even make DSLR 360s to improve the photo element. For small to medium sized scans this could be a good alternative to buying the Matterpak.

Anyway, all will be revealed when the device arrives around April.
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@Wingman, Thanks for the details on using RTK modules. This is invaulable info for me. I haven't used RTK yet but I am just getting into mapping (at a hobby level) and I thought this would be a good opportunity to try as the module is discounted. I have considered getting a station and module for my Mavic Pro 2 and doing a home conversion but the cost of the station would set me back quite a lot for something that is not going to provide any income for the forseeable future. The Android app or government network option sounds like something worth exploring in early testing.


I am going to update my memory on it so I am more than happy to help everybody. Meanwhile you can try to find NTRIP Broadcasting service in Japan that you can use for correction. I do not remember what is a limit how far away it can be from a place where your rover is. I think mine was 50-70km away and it still worked while normally they would say you will need to be no further than 25km.

If anybody needs to know one in Australia I have been using and still have login details to ones run through the following government website. I sent them a request asking for access and almost straight away got a login, a password and a URL with a port number from them. Then it was only a matter entering it in the NTRIP app. The rover I used was connected to the same smartphone through Bluetooth.

https://gnss.ga.gov.au/stream
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I have started looking how to use Lefebure NTRIP Client app for android in case there is no Bluetooth that can be used to connect Eagle RTK rover to a smartphone running this app. So far I could not get clear instructions on how wi-fi can be used. However when I asked ChatGPT it seems to pick it up from some data found online. Anyway here are the instructions:

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Originally Posted by ChatGpt


To connect your SLAM mapping scanner's built-in RTK rover to the Lefebure NTRIP Client via Wi-Fi, follow these steps:

1. **Install Lefebure NTRIP Client**: Download and install the Lefebure NTRIP Client app on your Android device. citeturn0search0

2. **Configure Wi-Fi Connection**: Ensure your scanner and Android device are connected to the same Wi-Fi network. If your scanner can act as a Wi-Fi hotspot, connect your Android device to it.

3. **Set Up Lefebure NTRIP Client**:
- **Receiver Connection**: In the app, navigate to 'Settings' > 'Receiver Settings' > 'Receiver Connection' and select 'External via TCP/IP'.
- **IP and Port Configuration**: Enter the IP address and port number of your scanner. Refer to your scanner's manual for these details.
- **NTRIP Settings**: Input your NTRIP caster details under 'Settings' > 'NTRIP Settings'.

4. **Enable Mock Locations** (Optional): To allow other apps to utilize the corrected GPS data:
- Enable 'Mock Locations' in the Lefebure NTRIP Client.
- On your Android device, enable Developer Options and set Lefebure NTRIP Client as the mock location app. citeturn0search2

5. **Connect and Verify**: Return to the main screen of the Lefebure NTRIP Client and tap 'Connect'. Ensure that RTCM correction data is being received and transmitted to your scanner.

If your scanner lacks Wi-Fi capabilities, consider using an external Wi-Fi module compatible with your device to facilitate the connection. citeturn0search1

For detailed instructions, consult your scanner's user manual or support resources.



Please note that the link that I have given to Lefebure NTRIP Client is for their windows app. Lefebure NTRIP Client app for Android can be found on Google Play Market.
At least there is a way to make it all work with this Eagle scanner RTK module.
Do not forget that the phone should be connected to a mobile internet to access NTRIP Broadcaster data for correction. And the scanner can connect to the same phone through Mobile hotspot.
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I got a message from them yesterday that my order is about to be shipped. It is DHL express so I hope to get it next week.
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My personal Facebook account has been suspended by Facebook because somebody has created a fake account on Instagram and broke some rules. Go figure out why they suspend my Facebook account if it happened on Instagram and why I am punished for their crappy security. I googled and it apparently happens to a lot of their users for years.

They tell me I can appeal but no links or any help how to do it. And honestly I do not want to do anything with this awful platform anymore. I thought they only good for stealing advertisement budget but it seems not enough for them.

I will try to provide more info here on the scanner but their Facebook group was the best source.
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