Question of the Day: DJI Mini 2 a viable option for a real estate Pro?13484
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| Video: DJI Mini 2 First Flight and Impressions | Video courtesy of Billy Kyle YouTube Channel | 4 November 2020 Video: DJI Mini 2 | How to FLY DJI Mini 2 | Video courtesy of DJI Tutorials YouTube Channel | 4 November 2020 Hi All, The WGAN Forum Question of the Day for Thursday, 5 November 2020: Is the DJI Mini 2 a viable option for a real estate photographer that wants to add drone photos and video? Best, Dan |
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| DC Rainmaker included some sample images with his video: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wrGMkAGAt61WKKfH1afRhPJ8gVpNGo7s |
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| I will most likely liquidate my Spark & 1st Gen Mavic Mini to pick up this little bird. I think it will be a really good "B" drone ~ I always carry two drones |
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There are currently 3 Fly more Combo's available at my local Bestbuy e combo's |
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| Hmmm, may be worth cashing in my Phantom 4 pro (which is like a kite in the wind) and my spark. Need to check out it's flight time... | ||
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| @Shawn_P Marketing says 31 minutes of flight time ~ Actual if similar to my current mini will be in that 24-25 minutes depending on conditions of course |
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| @lilnitsch Thanks man. | ||
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@lilnitsch You Rock sir for posting this I have been flying a DJI Phantom Pro 3 since the came out. It has paid for itself many times over. I have a the first inspire and don't fly it anymore. I kept waiting for a 5 or the Mavic 3 or the EVO II to come out with 360 pano built in. This has the same sensor as the Phantom 3 and I am pleased with that for Real Estate stills and the occasional video. Yes would I want a better sensor sure...however as we all know we can find flaws that others never see especially on mobile devices and computer screens. So....this might work for me as it does have the 360 pano / 26 photos (at 11:08). Which is what I really want to connect with my front yard 360 VR shoots. I am driving to reinvent my Real Estate world. Make it smaller, shoot faster and make more money. Here is my proposed set up now. Stills Fuji X-H1 (Will get the H2 if the HDR works for me) Fuji 10-24 (On order - sold this when I got my Fuji 8-12. Missed the ability to do detail shots in one lens. Currently changing lens just to do the kitchen and other detail shots. Pano's Ricoh Z1 Walk Through Video DJI Pocket 2 (On order) Drone stills and aerial 360's Mavic Mini2 All of this can fit in a small case and I can keep it with me at all times. Looking at this for ROI and time. Thoughts? Cheers, Chuck |
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| Now that they've added DNG a no brainer for back up drone. Also, I believe because of it's small size, it can be flown on the DL for non-FDA approved situations. Flying over crowds and so forth. I'm a Part 107 pilot and don't take big chances, so I'll do my homework before doing anything crazy. There are a number of reasons to pick up this little guy. |
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| @Shawn_P ~ Not a Problem @PickChuck My daily drone is still my Mavic 2 Pro (I have too many drones) but, I like carrying 2 as a just in case and I like these small little drones as they can give you some more interesting shot opportunities or let you into some tighter spaces you might not be able to get a bigger bird into For stills I am shooting on the Sony a6400 with a 10-18mm Video I am actually shooting on the iPhone 11pro Max with the Crane M2 gimbal and Aerial I primarily use my Mavic 2 Pro or occasionally my current Mavic mini or when flight isn't possible my 1st general Osmo Pocket on my monopod on top of my tripod. (I had a shoot last spring where the rear fence was literally the runway fence) |
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| @toddwaddington Agreed ~ But, for folks that may be confused just because the Mavic Mini & Mini 2 are under that 249g if you are using either of these drones for monetary purposes (getting paid) this triggers a commercial use of the UAV and requires a Part 107 |
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| I don't do much with the "Food & Drug Administration" but, I get what you're saying... Quote: Originally Posted by toddwaddington |
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| @lilnitsch I think you are I are on the same page. I always carry backup's on a shoot (actually haven't been on the drone to be honest). I like what you are doing with the monopole. I just found a extending pole at a clearance place that has an adapter going from paint rollers to 1/4 20. I have been using my Z1 on it. I bet I could do the same with the Pocket 2 (when it arrives). I'll keep my master Fuji case and my phantom 3 case in the truck but make up "Real Estate Case" for that work. Cheers, Chuck |
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| Aside from all the obvious advantages (lower cost, portability, DNG format, etc.) it has higher speed which translates into higher wind resistance + it uses Occusync which translates into higher signal reliability and higher live image resolution. It also has a digital zoom. Note that the built-in 360 sphere mode won't fill in the sky (zenith) because the max upward gimbal angle is 20 degrees. On the minus side, you should note that it doesn't have any side sensors to keep you out of trouble with trees and other objects like it's bigger brothers do. For a professional photographer, though, the biggest factor to consider is the size of the camera sensor which is 12 MP, 1/2.3". I was using a Mavic Air with this sensor and the images just don't compare to my Mavic 2 Pro or Phantom 4 Pro 1" sensor cameras. It's a similar comparison to shooting 360s with a Ricoh Theta Z1 vs an Insta360 One X. I can almost match the level of resolution and detail of the Phantom 4 Pro images by processing the Mavic Air DNGs with Topaz Gigapixel AI and Lightroom, but they're still not at the level of the Mavic 2 Pro's images which have superior dynamic range and detail sue to the better sensor and lens quality. I have both a P4P V2 and a Mavic 2 Pro - as a result, I haven't used the Mavic Air in months (anyone interested in buying it?). My fallback (B drone) is my Parrot ANAFI Thermal (dual cameras) which I use occasionally when I get locked out by DJI geo fencing (refer to separate discussion on that). To clarify the point about FAA requirements, as per @lilnitsch, you need to have a Part 107 license to fly a drone for any commercial purpose, but you do escape having to register the drone with the FAA and paying a $5 annual registration fee when it weights less than 249g. |
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| @EaglePrecision I am an early adopter on technology. Always have been. This may or may not live up to my expectations. I have wasted money many other ways. LOL I don't completely disagree and will probably add a Mavic 3 when it comes out or an EVO II to my airport. Leaning to the EVO II right now. I also help on some search and rescue as I live on a lake and would like to have a camera that has an infrared camera. I can see the lake from my deck and could be up and flying in a minute and walk there and be lakeside in another minute. So one of those are probably in my future. Currently the EVO II will not do an automatic 360 so it's not what I need to fill this particular need. In my case I want quick 360 aerial panoramas that I can link to my 360 VR walkthroughs and simple stills for elevations of the front and back yard. The marketing material says it will shoot 26 images and blend them from what I am reading. I hope it will also leave the 25 images on the camera so I can do that my self in PtGui if necessary. I have been doing this with my Phantom 3 pro for years and it's a pain. Dan remembers when I was doing this with TourWrist. How many years has that been Dan? If this aircraft doesn't live up to my expectations I'll send it back as I just ordered one from Amazon and it will be here tomorrow. I'll post images if that will help anyone. It will keep me honest. On the "For a professional photographer" statement, I am a former Navy Officer and pilot and would fly and my partner would shoot aerials with Hasselblad's or Mamaya's. I understand quality and have been a photographer since 1976. I say match the tool to the task. That's all I am getting at. If I had unlimited time and was handsommly paid, I would fly one of the Matrice birds. I shoot for some good realtors and some broke ones. I pride myself in providing a quality service that helps all of them make a living. You and I are on the same page with using the Topaz suite of tools. Anyway, would it be possible for you to fill out your profile on the forum? I would like to see some of your work. I am always up for learning. Cheers, Chuck |
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| I like the EVO II and might get one to replace the Parrot ANAFI since I haven't had any use for the thermal camera. Would you be interested in purchasing it? | ||
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| @EaglePrecision I'll think about it. I seem to be stretching myself too thin these days. Like that's shiny, I want that. I can make money with that. LOL I like that on the EVO II it's modular and one can just change cameras. I would buy the EVO II today if I could do auto 360's with it. Typically, when I purchase something it "causes" another product to be upgraded. Look for Autel to upgrade the software on the EVO II because of my purchase. LOL The Parrot does look like a nice bird and many people are using it for commercial work. Thanks for contributing to this forum. Hope you are doing well, Chuck |
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| Most of my work is on the shores of Lake Michigan. We often get higher winds with gusts off the lake. I have the P4P and Mini. I have found the mini just doesn't cut it in stronger winds. One day it actually was blown away and crashed. Luckily, it stayed on and I could follow the GPS to find it. Now I have attached a Tile tracker to the top of the mini so I can track if need be. I will say it is great for getting into tighter spaced around a house surrounded by trees. The other advantage is you can crash several of them and still be under the cost of a P4. |
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| I hate to lose a drone to wind or trees. I like the mavic 2 & P4P in tight spaces because of their side sensors. I was going to buy a Yuneec H520 to fly in the winds (we get a lot in our Cape Fear region off the ocean & river) but I found that the P4P is pretty strong. Just a few days ago, it was hanging in with 30+ mph gusts - it would tilt almost 90 degrees and I could see the landing feet in the live image but it stayed in position and the gimbal kept the camera level & steady. I've had neighborhoods where people get all upset about having a drone fly in their vicinity (I have signs on my truck) so I've used the Mavic Air to quickly sneak in & out - it's small (not as small as a mini) and quiet and can be carried in a small bag. |
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| @fotoguy Great idea about the Tile tracker. I'll be doing that today. I have them in all my guitar and camera cases. Just never thought about the drone. That's why I love this place. Cheers, Chuck |
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| I used heavy-duty velcro. Small piece and you can feel it snap into place. You can't put a price on piece of mind. | ||
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| Billy Kyle's Sample footage off the Mini 2: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CRTgGrIk_muY9Yb19X85TWuFHtrFNLev |
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| @lilnitsch Thank you sir. I'll shoot a pano as soon as I can. I have a house shoot tomorrow at 3pm. Got to love working under pressure. LOL Amazon says it will be here before 9pm tonight .Chuck |
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| @PickChuck Selling my Spark this afternoon ~ I may pick up a fly more kit at my local BestBuy |
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| @lilnitsch Cool! After you take it for a spin, can you start a new WGAN Forum discussion with your first impressions? Please do include some examples shot. Enjoy your weekend, Dan |
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| Video: DJI Mini 2: Is It Good For Photographers? | Video courtesy of Billy Kyle YouTube Channel | 6 November 2020 | ||
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| @lilnitsch @DanSmigrod I have one too. On chat with DJI as I am having trouble with the app. Got to love it. Chuck |
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| @PickChuck The Mavic mini, Mavic Air 2, and this new little mini 2 run on DJI’s fly app not the Go4 app |
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