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"Should I buy a 4DKanKan Pro 3D Camera and use the 4DAGE Platform?"12444

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Video: 4DKANKAN Pro 3D Camera | Video courtesy of 4D AGE YouTube Channel | 26 November 2020

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"Should I buy a 4DKanKan Pro 3D Camera and use the 4DAGE platform?"

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Hello Dan,

I hope you and your family are safe and well.

I would like to congratulate you for creating such a professional forum.

I'm contacting you from [Europe] and would appreciate your advice.

I have a real estate business and was looking to purchase a Matterport and came across a Chinese manufacturer www.4dkankan.com and wondered if you had any knowledge or dealings of them in the US.

They claim their technology is superior with regards to the time onsite to collect the images is vastly reduced along with the processing, greater accuracy and they can include video within the model.

I hope you don't mind me asking for your opinion but I am new to this and any advice would be much appreciated.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

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What are the costs? Monthly fee like Matterport and an expensive camera?
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@Matt19 The 4DKanKan Pro 3D Camera is RMB9,800 (~USD1,400) and it will include a cloud storage of 10GB (for ~ 10 x 200Sq.M. house).
If you capture more than 10GB you should pay extra cloud storage at:

20GB USD19.00 per month or USD190.00 per year
50GB USD76.00 per month or USD760.00 per year
200GB USD349.00 per month or USD3490.00 per year
1000GB USD1799.00 per month or USD17990.00 per year

Maybe you can request a multi-floor example from them, I didn't see any of multi-floor example on their website.
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After a read-through of their specifications and other technical data (or lack there of) I would highly recommend you tread lightly. I thought perhaps the English pages were light due to lack of translation but I also scanned through the CN localized pages.

Caveat Emptor my friend.
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Video: 4DAGE Real Estate Mini Program | Video courtesy of 4D AGE YouTube Channel (30 July 2020)
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It is must be the newest version of 4D AGE's result.
Because we can only get the latest link: https://www.4dkankan.com/showProMobile.html?m=21fRpsgLj from their website. It is totally different to the video they released now.

And we can see lots of quality improvement from the video.
Before 3D view is wall only, but now you can see the 3D furnitures inside the room.

The new result is very similar to the result from Realsee (http://www.realsee.com/) who is belong to company "BEKE".

And "BEKE" is going to IPO on USA market with his Matterport like product "realsee". https://seekingalpha.com/news/3594918-ke-holdings-readies-ipo

One more thing is very interesting: when I open the video, Youtube said there are only two times view.
And I think it must be the "author" and @DanSmigrod, I am the third one who see the video.
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Video: 4DKanKan Pro | Multiple Floors Scanning | Video courtesy of 4DAGE YouTube Channel | 17 May 2021
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Video: 4DKanKan Pro | First Use Guidelines | Video courtesy of 4DAGE YouTube Channel | 17 May 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JuMP
The 4DKanKan Pro 3D Camera is RMB9,800 (~USD1,400) and it will include a cloud storage of 10GB (for ~ 10 x 200Sq.M. house).


If you switch to English they show a price for a camera as $1799 USD

https://www.4dkankan.com/#/mall/kankanPro

Below on that page there is technical data. It is 8K or just slightly over it.

"Image Resolution: 4608x3456(single); 8192x4096(total)"

And their HDR if it is there is quite bad.

I cannot find any 3D for furniture, it is still flat in their 3D dollhouse.

No idea how they reconstruct it. On the page below it shows in a video header some movement through a space and building a path. Looks like VSLAM to me.

https://www.4dkankan.com/#/location
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Quote:
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They claim their technology is superior with regards to the time onsite to collect the images is vastly reduced along with the processing, greater accuracy and they can include video within the model.


If we look at their video with capturing I cannot see anything better in regards time on site comparing to Matterport. The lady in the video is doing the same micro steps as you would do with Matterport.
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Better or worse? It is clear obviously.
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Oh boy.

Matterport is going to love this Realsee camera.





Quote:
Originally Posted by JuMP
The new result is very similar to the result from Realsee (http://www.realsee.com/) who is belong to company "BEKE".

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@Expertise

Which link are. you using?
This link does not display a page (for me): http://www.realsee.com/

Dan
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it is under "core products-> VR equipment" after you use Google to translate it.

http://www.realsee.com/website/product/hardware

It could be a leak from the same factory where Matterport cameras are made. It could be exactly what a Pro3 will look like.
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Quote:
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Better or worse? It is clear obviously.


it is cheaper for equipment, can be cheaper for subscription but its resolution is still 32MP.
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