Who shoots HDR real estate without a tripod??12024
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Im wondering if I am the only one doing it and being successful? My company has 7 photographers and with my technic we are all shooting 3 exposures with no tripod. We do about 40-50 houses a day    |
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Looks like a great Technic...  |
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 3D RenderingsAEC Elevation Drawings Montreal, Québec |
ArchimedStudio private msg quote post Address this user | |
I shoot with a tripod and multi-flash. I can do 40-50 PHOTOS a day!   ahaha |
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ArchimedStudio What’s funny?? |
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3D Renderings AEC Elevation Drawings Montreal, Québec |
ArchimedStudio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| That you do 50 houses and I do 50 photos. But obviously, you're here to brag, not to joke. Sorry | ||
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Brag about what lol 7 photographers 40-50 houses average 6-7 each. Where is the issue here ? Just wanted to see who else does it. Im from Canada also |
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| They're really good pictures. How much +/- do you use between each shot. Is the HDR processing done by your camera or externally? | ||
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @denlee 3 stops The processing is done after. Not in the camera. |
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bryanhscott private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Eladitems Amazing production! Curious as to how you achieve those results. I’m sure it’s multi-faceted and systematized. In my market, 6-7 jobs, would involve between 2-3 hours for just drive-time. Checked your services menu and pricing. Q: What is your HD walk-through virtual tour? | ||
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| @bryanhscott We have a great system of processing. Depending on our packages we stay in a house 15min to 1h Here is a sample of our videos https://www.dropbox.com/s/hw0z2jvfzl2v3np/1460%20NE%20103rd%20St%20Miami%20Shores%2C%20FL%20%2033138.mp4?dl=0 |
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bryanhscott private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Eladitems Very nice video. The style looks very similar to Photo & Video Edits, another WGAN member from South Florida. Do you do your editing in-house, or do you outsource? If you outsource, would you mind dropping the name? What camera do you use for your videos? Also, from your pricing menu, curious on your profit margins. The pricing is definitely on the low end for my market (Denver) - not sure about Florida. Would you consider your pricing low, mid, or on the high side? Thanks for the info! |
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Thank you. We do the editing in house. We have a member who does only that. My pricing is based on volume as we do so many and there is sooooo many agents here. We do about 400-500 houses a month so the profit is excellent My competition in this price range offers horrible quality. This is another reason we are busy |
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bryanhscott private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Eladitems Thanks for the info. Understood on volume. It's all about the workflow. Even when I shoot a sub-1,000sf apartment, I spend at least an hour at the property (1/2 hour for stills and 1/2 hour for 3D tour panos), then at least 20 minutes drive-time one-way. When I get back to my office, it's another 30 minutes minimum behind a computer, not including the single-property website I include with each order. So, all in, return trip and website, I'm in for 2-2/3rds hours! Wow! I'm going to have to step it up, or dumb it down... | ||
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @bryanhscott remove the tripod you will cut half the time. We don’t do 3D for every listing. Only the ones who order it. We do a quick zillow video for every listing. |
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| I don't think using a tripod or not using a tripod is really an issue. I have photographed 22 single detached homes in a day (averaging 30 images per home, interior and exterior). I always use a tripod and always shoot 5 bracketed exposures. I think you just need to be comfortable with whichever technique you use. Just for an FYI, 22 homes is by far the most homes I have photographed in a day. This was a builder at 4 different sites that were only 15-20 minutes away from each other. @bryanhscott, I think the amount of time that you spend at the property is perfectly reasonable for photos and a virtual tour. At that rate, you could probably do 4 properties a day assuming you do photos and virtual tour. However, if you were just doing photos, you could probably do 6-8 properties in a day. If you get to that point, I would recommend outsourcing your post production. Just my 2 cents, JonJ |
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| Nice work and nice pricing model. I looked at the airspace in Miami and there is a ton of restricted airspace. How do you handle airspace conflicts when an agent orders a package with drone photos? The FAA doesn't grant waivers same day... at least not here in Houston. I trust that "unlimited photos" and "ultra high resolution" are really governed by MLS limitations and rules. Here in Houston it's ~40 photos and 2048x1536 which isn't honestly that high of a resolution. On the bright side it loads quickly. |
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| @briangreul We are licensed and get instant approval with the airmap app so its been very easy to deal with and if its really close to the airport we simply don’t shoot it. Not the end of the world. We shoot unlimited pictures. Some properties we give 80+ pictures. We supply 2 folders to the agents. Hi Res and Mls ready so they can use the HI Res for printing and such. |
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| Good idea on the 2 folders. It's possible to get FAA Authorization for near airport. I've flown projects on the airport property at IAH, <300 ft from Runway 30L, with ATC coordination. It just takes more time and I surcharge for it. I'm in the hard hat and safety vest in the center of the photo. That's the Air Cargo building at IAH. Wind was close to my upper safe limit, but I got it done.  The shot below was over the listing I was working on. Nothing magical airspace wise, a nice break in Houston with our messy airspace.  |
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| There are at least two youtube videos on how to do HDR without a tripod. Here is one of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfG8zjB41ZY I personally prefer to do it with a tripod and a remote control to eliminate any shaking. |
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| On the one hand, as a businessman and photographer, I'm fascinated by this post. Shooting handheld and still delivering quality would be a godsend. But, some of the things you are claiming don't really seem to stand up to scrutiny. You shoot 50 homes a day... ok fine. You have 1 person processing those 50 jobs of up to 80 images? In other words, your processor cranks out around 2500 files a day? Including detailed window pulls/masking? Lol, ok. And then you say these files are HDR. They look a lot like layered raws blended in PS to me. Also- your examples are all super bright, white and well lit. I can get pretty nice iphone pics in those conditions. Post some hand held "HDR" shots of a dark, wood panelled study overlooking the water and we'll see how your "techic" holds up. So, please... tell us more. |
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Expertise you clearly missing the business man side you are claiming to be. I said up to 50. Thats the max we did. I am in all south Florida and Orlando. Some days can be 35. Others can be 30. It varies. But all can be done. Not every house gets 80 pictures. So your businessman math is all wrong. Some get 30. Some 42. It all depends. Show me what you want as examples and ill show you  I have as much as you need. Not because you don’t do it you can laugh about it. |
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| Went to your website and now see you offer blue skies on all packages. So, ona cloudy day, your ONE in-house processor is running MINIMUM 30 HDR shoots of 30 images (that's 900 files) with masked windows and sky replacements? Even if the poor guy processes 12 hours/day, that's 900 files in 720 minutes. 48 seconds per file! And we're not even including upload/download time. That's the guy who should be bragging. |
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Expertise no one is bragging here. Only you seem to be mad that its doable... We give the pictures the next morning. We also do Free item removal for our clients   |
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| You don't need a tripod at all outdoors in daylight. I always shoot daylight exteriors hand held. Why? Because it's so bright that your shutter speed can be easily kept in a range where motion blur is not an issue. Interiors are a different story. Particularly in darker, poorly lit interiors. I just tried a test of 3 bracketed images, 3 stops apart as the OP mentioned. In my living room, I had to go to ISO 10000 to get the brightest file shutter speed up to 1/25. That is about as slow as you would want to go hand held to avoid motion blur. Quote: Originally Posted by Wingman |
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Expertise what camera are you using? 10000 iso is insane inside. I use 1600 iso all the time   |
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Expertise private msg quote post Address this user | |
| A7rii. Hey, I'm not trying to bust your balls. I honestly am very interested in what you're doing. Here is my real question... what do you do in dark houses? |
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Expertise I don’t think you are busting my balls. Regardless what people think I am doing it and its done. Funny you mentioned. Just did the darkest house in my life lol. This place is a dungeon. I was at iso 4000 Look at that.     |
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Expertise private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm not mad at all. Just saying some of your numbers don't add up. Quote: Originally Posted by Eladitems |
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Eladitems private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Expertise ok. They add up in my bank account perfectly |
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Expertise private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Not terrible. But a massive difference in quality to the first 3 pics you posted. How do you explain this to clients? They see the beautiful gallery photos (all white interiors) on your site, and then they get something that (due to lighting) is much, much lower in quality? |
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