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 WGAN Basic Member Boston |
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| Hi WGAN folks, I just viewed this on Linkedin, info / video clip of XGrids Portal Cam, a walk around Guassian Splatting 3D camera.Link below. Looks interesting, do any of you know more about this? Not sure how / where the files are stored / transferred.. What do you all think of this vs Matterport? |
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| @Noddy no prices listed and or file outputs yet. It looks more like pointcloud but you have to book demo to get more information. | ||
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WGAN Basic Member Boston |
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| Thanks @ron0987, I just found a link to a seller in Ohio, $5k for the camera, here's the link FYI https://e38surveysolutions.com/products/portalcam-standard-kit Appears to be a legit distributor, but beware of any scams  |
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 TosoliniProductions Bellevue, Washington |
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| I ordered mine from https://www.lidaholics.com/. Once I get it, I'll report back. You can see an example of scan in this post. | ||
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WGAN Basic Member Boston |
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| Great to hear @Tosolini! & thanks for the link |
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| Be aware that the XGrids Portalcam is fully depending on the LCC software from XGrids, which is priced at 1500 per year for the basic version. It is an impressive device, but I don't want to move from Matterport to the next lock-in business model. More info here | ||
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WGAN Basic Member Boston |
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| @ Meshimages, -good to know about that software license fee! Quite a high price to start, and likely the license fee will climb over time.. Thanks. | ||
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 WGAN FanClub Member Queensland, Australia |
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| I do not understand this hype about this camera. We are photographers and we own professional cameras that can record clear 4K video. That is all you need to create 3D Gaussian Splatting. They are created from videos and they do not require any $5000 devices just for that. Need more angles, just do multiple videos. It looks like another pointless device like an electric pizza maker, when it is being offered to people who have electric/gas ovens already. |
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Tosolini Productions Bellevue, Washington |
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| @meshimages I passed your concerns to XGRIDS and here is their answer: > Thanks for sharing this feedback! Just to clarify, XGRIDS is absolutely an open ecosystem. We’ll continue supporting more and more third-party hardware datasets in the near future. We’ll never lock users into only our platform. Our position is to serve as the infrastructure for 3D content, not to be another walled garden. @wingman I think the value of a dedicated device is in capturing good quality images, fusing them with lidar data, and in the software that makes things simple to process. It's true that you don't need a PortalCam to create 3DGS, but probably there are enough advantages that they decided to invest in manufacturing a new device. Since I don't have my unit yet, I can't elaborate if this is a good purchase or not. |
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| @Tosolini But you still need an active LCC software subscription to process the scan data from the PortalCam, right? I cannot export to any 3rd party software solution and process the raw LCC scan data in there (or for free with open source solutions like Lichtfeld). You always need to go to the LCC software, then you can export any sort of .ply and then move the dataset to another software. As far as I know, it is only the LCC software that can read and process the scan data from the PortalCam. @Wingman One major benefit, that I see in the XGRIDS solution is in the real time preview of the captured data while scanning. This makes it much easier to control the capture quality on site. Furthermore it simplifies the capture process and makes it a more scalable solution with less trained technicians. On the other hand I think, that for smaller objects you will be able to achieve comparable results with the next generations of the iPad and lidar - plus software like polycam, Kiri3D or Scaniverse. You can also merge multiple small models and then create a larger experience. And for larger areas I am looking into capturing with 360 cameras from the ground (Insta X5) and from above with the 360 Antigravity drone. The biggest challenge for XGrids will be the fast development of mobile capturing, also with headsets like Quest. And of course political developments, like Trumps expanding blacklist of Chinese tech companies, that can be "dual-use" - civil and military. |
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Tosolini Productions Bellevue, Washington |
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| @meshimages I believe you are right. Only LCC software may be able to decode PortalCam raw files. After all, they need to make money somehow, so I don't blame their business model. The external competition of the likes of Insta360, http://splatica.com, Meta Hyperscape, etc. will crowd the market eventually, and might force XGRIDS to keep / reduce subscription fees and enhance their software quickly. In a few years, 3DGS may be commoditized as it happened with MP. |
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| @Tosolini Yes, absolutely. It is ok, that they charge for the software. It will be interesting to see, what will happen to Matterport. Capture times for a Matterport tour are x10 compared to 3DGS. |
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| Adding to my post this morning.. I’ve tried to get some more information about ownership and management structures of XGrids, such as public filings, company registry records, and investor disclosures and found virtually nothing. This extremely low transparency around funding and ownership makes it nearly impossible for me to engage major clients here in Europe. Enterprise buyers demand: - Transparent ownership (only Skywalker Group is vaguely cited) - Defined governance (org chart, board members - they have 51-200 employees) - Direct channel to decision-makers, not just to marketing or resellers Until XGrids provides this level of visibility, winning large-scale contracts will be an uphill battle — shiny video demos on LinkedIn won’t let me pass due-diligence. |
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